CREATION vs. DISCOVERY.

Somethings in life are discovered, somethings created. Science is full of discoveries. Radium was discovered by us-kind, not created. Science is also full of creations. We call these creations inventions, in science. History is also about discovery. Columbus discovered the North American continent. He did not create it. When You discover something, it is ALREADY in existence. You do not discover something that does not exist. You create something that does not exist.

What about Math though ??? If you take a string of thread and wrap it around anything circular, just once and then measure the length of the string and divide it by the diameter of the circular object, what you will get for an answer is Pi.(3.1415...). This will be true, no matter what circular object you use. Try it. You probably have already in grade school.

Now let me ask you a question. Did you discover Pi, or create it. You certainly could not have created Pi. Pi was in existence long before you. It was known to the Greeks, Arabs, etc...

So if you did not create it , then perhaps you discovered it. As I said before, You can only discover something that already exists. So then if this thing, Pi existed before you found it, then when did it start to exist ??? If it was in existence even before you discovered it, then perhaps it was in existence before, any human being walked this planet.(Since Pi's existence seems to be independant of the human mind.) Perhaps Pi allways existed. Pi exists eternally.

Lets bring God into the Picture. I thought only God existed eternally. In the Begining, God... If God existed eternally, and 3.1415... has existed eternally, then God could not have created Pi. If Pi's existed in independent upon the human mind, why should it be dependant upon Gods mind ??? So God was not alone in the begining.

In the begining, 3.1415.....